I went to a sight about the CN shootings, and found a commenter who used his child as a rhetorical weapon against those who disagreed with him.
Mark Dudley, who claims to be in the Army, writes:
...if you want to protect yourselves, why does it have to be with a gun? Is it because others have guns? Is it because it makes you feel powerful?
OOOOH, that's right! It's ONLY because 'dat big, bad gun compensates me for my weak sense of self that I would prefer to be armed in a confrontation with an armed intruder! What other reason could there possibly be?
How could someone be so ignorant to think that my child's life is worth you keeping your gun? Right.. I agree our gun control laws are terrible. They need to look more like those in Europe, esp . the UK, where gun violence has dramatically decreased since the ban on hand guns was enacted. Let everyone keep his or her rifles and shotguns, but membership in a licensed and sanctioned hunting or shooting club should be mandatory.
Right. Because anyone who thinks the government might kick his door down on a pretext is paranoid.
Tell that to those killed by drones - without an indictment, trial, or access to a lawyer. Mother Jones - a LEFT-WING paper - has more on that.
Tell that to those killed in "mistake" by zealots using no-knock laws. Google "no knock warrant mistakes" to get a list of over 200,000 hits.
MarkDudley Oh, please! The UK DOES have violence, both with and without guns - the only thing that came of that is to take the guns from those who would defend their homes and persons against thugs. They have had gun restrictions for MANY years - even before WWII. Didn't stop many of the violent from blasting away.
The key facts are:
• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean
Go to the link to learn more, as well as get the full report. I would also mention that a significant percentage of those US gun murders are NOT committed by Americans, but by "undocumented immigrants". Often against OTHER "undocumented immigrants".
I'm NOT anti your protecting your child. Show me a case where these rampages occur on a "guns-allowed" location, and I'll buy your argument. They happen specifically where there are NO guns allowed by law-abiding citizens. The perps can take their time, knowing that there will be no effective resistance.
I'm a small woman (well, at least in height). I could NOT protect myself against an armed man without a gun to equalize the threat.
So, what you are saying is "Tough luck, toots. You deserve to die because I have FEELINGS against weapons".
Thanks a lot. For nothing.